Forums

Post Reply
Forum Home > General Discussion > Lets chat about RC

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

We had a great general meeting yesterday and a lot questions were asked afterwards about RC in general. I thought I would start this forum as a place to talk about and ask questions on finding , flying and building planes or heli's.

I still have a lot to learn but if we all share our knowledge we can help each other out.  :)


Regards

Peter

April 30, 2011 at 6:29 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter T
Member
Posts: 512

Yes a good afternoon the other day. had a look on some web sites, 4 planes etc, what does "bnf" "pnp" mean?? & where or what is a good site 4 a biginner to get a plane from??? thanks.

May 1, 2011 at 5:19 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

BNF - Bind and Fly

These kits normally come with everything you need including motor,esc,servos, battery and receiver. They do not include a transmitter. These areagood way to go but remember to check what receiver is supplied with the kit,itneeds to be compatible with your transmitter. For example you may have a2.4ghzspectrum transmitter but that does not mean that a generic brand 2.4ghzreceiverwill work with a spectrum transmitter, you may end up paying forsomething thatyou can’t use. Other than that you can make good savings with aBNF kit.


PLP - Plug and play.

These kits normally including motor, esc and servos, they do not comewith atransmitter, receiver or battery. They are designed for people whoalready havesome gear but still offer good savings. These are the kits I lookfor if I don'twant to go to all the trouble of finding the wright motor,servos and esc.


You will also see

ARF - Almost Ready To Fly

These kits normally include the airframe only and you still need tobuy theservos, esc, battery and receiver etc. I would give these a miss at themomentuntil you have more experience with all the components and know what youarelooking for.


RTF - Ready to fly

These kits come with everything you need including a Radio/transmitter.Allyou need to do is charge the battery with the supplied charger and goflying. Ifyou don't have a Radio then this would be the way to go because youcan saveheaps. My first plane was a RTF but I paid around $450.00 because itcame with agood Spectrum Radio which I’m still using after several years.


If you decide to go with a RTF kit just be mindful of theradio/transmittersupplied with the kit. I would be looking for 2.4ghz ineither a Spectrum or JRbrand. Spectrum are the cheaper of the two but verygood quality. I have usedSpectrum for about 3 years now and highly recommendthem. There are a lot ofgood RFT kits on the market with Spectrum transmittershowever you would expectto pay over $300.00


Do you already have a Radio and if you do what brand and frequency isit. Howmuch do you want to spend and what type of plane were you thinking ofgetting ,3D, War Birds, trainer etc.


Hobbyking is a good place to start looking to get some ideas ofpriceshowever if you buy an RTF kit from them the radio will be a generic2.4ghz andmore that likely very cheep. I would look for a good PLP kit and buyyour Radioand transmitter from another supplier if you need them. I know heapsofsuppliers for everything you need we just need to narrow down what yourlookingfor and what you need.


Have a look at the below links to get you started

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/index.rc

http://www.advantagehobby.com/


Also have a look at some of the supplier I have listed under the linkstab on the top of the website.


Also as a side note I have foam eflite trainer for sale under the "BuySell and Swap Tab". It comes ready to fly with a spectrum receiver, 3 xbatteries, charger etc. All you would need is either a spectrum or JR2.4ghz Radio. I’m asking $220.00

http://wamqld.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=114654893


I would recommend either of  the below Radios


DX5E

http://www.advantagehobby.com/product.php?productid=180147&cat=278


DX6i

http://www.advantagehobby.com/product.php?productid=180151&cat=278

May 1, 2011 at 7:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter T
Member
Posts: 512

Thanks for the above. yes I saw your ad but I don't know enough at the moment. would it work with my radio (or is it a transmitter)?  I have a "Laser 4 fm ' by        ' hitec" . We got it with a trainer, some time ago, but once we get in the air I think we will need a next one pretty soon after.  (ha! ha! I hope I'm not bragging.) 

May 2, 2011 at 6:41 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

You can call them a Radio or a transmitter, there the same thing depending on who the conversation is with...lol.


I believe the Laser 4 FM is a Crystal style radio so unfortunately it wont work with the spectrum 2.4ghz receiver in that plane. What you would need to do is put a compatible crystal receiver in to match. If you still have the receiver that came with the original trainer then you could use that providing it has at least  4 chanels.


One thing I forgot to mention was a good simulator. I cant understate how important they are for learning and practising flying.


You will save hundreds of dollars in plane repairs and gain valuable flight skills without even leaving your house. I still use mine at least once a week to practice 3D manoeuvres. If you are serious about RC then you must have one to develop. The best part about them is that you can generally use your own Radio to fly with so while getting flight time you are also familiarising yourself with your own Radio. You will be so much more confident when you put a real plane in the air after practising with a SIM.

There are several professional simulators on the market and I have tried them all. One of my favourites is "Phoenix RC". Once you purchase the software all upgrades are free so when new planes and fields are released by the manufacturer you can just download them.


 

If I had to start over again then I would go for Phoenix and a DX6 2.4ghz radio.


Phoenix $149.00

 

http://www.modelflight.com.au/products/Phoenix_R_C_Pro_Flight_Simulator_V3_0-8639-45.html

 

DX6i $225.00 with a reciver for your next plane

http://www.wiredrc.com.au/shop/Radio-Transmitters/Spektrum-DX6i-Full-Range-DSM-6-Channel-TX-with-AR6200-Receiver-Mode-1/prod_451.html

 




May 2, 2011 at 9:46 AM Flag Quote & Reply

kennyglide
Member
Posts: 747

Yeah ,the Phoenix simulator has helped me heaps....  especially being able to fly specific models or something very similar to what we own .

May 8, 2011 at 5:42 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

I would be lost without my SIM ... its a lot cheeper than crashing thats for sure...lol

May 9, 2011 at 10:05 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

This Thread was MOVED from "Orange RX from Hobby King"

I twould like to here from anyone about their experiences with the orange RX currently available from Hobby King , has anyone had any problems with them , if so what are the pro's and con's .


Rod - February 11, 2011 at 10:54 PM


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have been using them for about 6 months now and so far they have been working fine, however I still haven't used them on my expensiveplanes. I would like to do some more range testing before hand. But for themoney they are amazing.


Peter Earl - February20, 2011 at 7:23 AM


------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Try Using the satellite extentions also from Hobby Kingfor a cost of around $12 , this should just about double your current range.


Cost of Orange RX coupled with Satellite Extention including postage around $25 -$30 , great value when you consider the Spectrum RX goes for about $120


Rod - February 20, 2011 at 10:16 AM


May 13, 2011 at 9:12 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

After Rod's mishap the other day it appears that the cause was due to a brown out in his Orange receiver. I think these cheap receivers are fine for smaller foam or balsa planes but you need to be careful  when putting them into your expensive planes.


I have several of these in my smaller planes and so far they have been excellent however I don't think I would risk putting one in my Extreme Flight planes. I would prefer to pay the extra money for peace of mind.

Thats just my thoughts anyway


Regards

pete


May 13, 2011 at 9:20 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

This Thread was MOVED from " Fixing Komet"


Yeah Peter , thanks for the concern , I have been in contact with GeoffBarker the Brisbane manufacturer of the S&B Komet and he  has saidit  will fix up no problem .

 

Apparently i will have to use both epoxy and 3M Super 77 as these planes areconstructed of  foam and EPP foam which helps it absorb the some of theimpact. Sorry to hear about the setback with the club ....  is privateland an option? Cheers

 

Ken - March 1, 2011 at 12:29 AM

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Hey Ken , i see you got a few busy day ahead of you with the Komet, if itmakes you feel any better i took out my new Harmon Rocket on Saturday toT.A.R.M.A.C and took her up for her Maidan no probs , second flight had a deadstick landing came down heavy ,spead the landing gear like a ballerina doin thesplits which resulted in the wheels slightly damaging the wing on both sides.

 

I am going to haveto beef up the the wheel struts and some surgery on thewings before the next flight.

 

By the way private land is certainly an option we would look at if you knowof someone that has a block by all means let us know.

 

Rod- March 1, 2011 at 5:31 PM

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If your not in a hurry and you need to buy epoxy then have a look at theprice through Hobbyking. You will pay less than one third of the costthan buying here. While your ordering you could also pick another foamy...lol... you can never have enough ... Just look at my collection.

 

PeterEarl - March 1, 2011 at 9:47 PM

 


May 13, 2011 at 9:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

kennyglide
Member
Posts: 747

Hi there, Komet in one piece again , wired it up last night and all i can get out of the motor is a beep noise . The Komet people supplied me with a larger 45A Hobby King ESC ready for when i upgrade  to a bigger motor( could it need programing or something?). I'm  running a 1900 Turnigy outrunner at the moment and had no problems when i was running the smaller ESC (unfortunately it was damaged in the last crash) any help greatly appreciated . One day i will actually get to fly this thing ..... Living in hope Ken.

--
May 21, 2011 at 11:18 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

Ken sounds like the ESC hasn't been programmed. It should have come with some instructions on how to do it, it wont work until the maximum and minimum throttle settings have been set. This is a safety thing with most ESC, I have yet to buy one that has worked out of the box. Depending on the brand you generally turn your transmitter on and push the throttle stick to full...yes full. Then plug your battery into the ESC. Its best to do this without the prop on just in case it fires up. after you connect the battery to the ESC you will hear a beep, at that point you pull the throttle back to its lowest point. By doing this procedure you set the maximum and minimum throttle points and your ESC will arm. Depending on the ESC brand this procedure may very slightly. If you have any trouble I'm only to happy to give you a hand and we can work through it. They can be a real pain sometimes. 


Regards

Pete

May 23, 2011 at 2:24 AM Flag Quote & Reply

kennyglide
Member
Posts: 747

Hi Pete , thanks for the info. I tried to programme the ESC but still the same result. I phoned Geoff Barker of S&B the manufacturer of the Komet and he has kindly offered to send me another one (ESC that is) . By the way Pete is there a space somewhere i can put the PA system i have offered the club? ....... still living in hope :D Regards Ken

--
May 24, 2011 at 1:26 AM Flag Quote & Reply

kennyglide
Member
Posts: 747

Oops i also had an incident with a LIPO battery, but don't tell anyone. Ken     :o

--
May 24, 2011 at 1:40 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486
Don't tell me you plugged the negative into the positive ?
--


May 25, 2011 at 2:16 AM Flag Quote & Reply

kennyglide
Member
Posts: 747

Hi Pete, no not quite that serious(or dangerous) ,i'll tell all when i see you. S&B sent me the new battery and ESC but it has to be soldered ect, so before i put it in i'd like to be sure that the existing ESC is "the problem. " I have tried a few things myself but to no avail, so i may have to take you up on your offer to give me a hand. Regards Ken.

--
May 26, 2011 at 8:28 PM Flag Quote & Reply

kennyglide
Member
Posts: 747

Yeah I'll speak with you or Rod about that PA system when i see you as i haven't the space for it here. Cheers.Ken

May 26, 2011 at 8:41 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

No worries Ken I am happy to give you a hand... and I'm good at soldering. I will be home for the next few days so give me a call if you want to pop round.


Regards

Pete

--


May 26, 2011 at 11:58 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

Peter T

 

We were talking about a good foam plane yesterday. This is the one I thought would be good to learn on but is still fully 3D capable.

 

The Multiplex brand aren't the cheapest on the market but they are good quality so you pay a little more.I have got two Multiplex planes and I have been very happy with them. The ELAPOR foam they use is high quality.


The first link is from a dealer in the USA that I have dealt with in the past and have been very happy with.

http://www.advantagehobby.com/product.php?productid=84271


The second Link is from an Australian supplier. I have never bought anything from them but there prices are excellent.

http://www.rcheadquarters.com.au/10275.html


Now with this type of kit you only get the airframe so you will also need to buy

4 x Servos

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662&Product_Name=HXT900_9g_/_1.6kg_/_.12sec_Micro_Servo



1 x Motor

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2105



1 x Prop

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7953



1 x ESC

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662&Product_Name=HXT900_9g_/_1.6kg_/_.12sec_Micro_Servo



1 x Battery

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9493



1 x Charger if you don't have one

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7028



1 x Receiver for your radio

http://www.xtremehobby.ashop.com.au/p/1192857/hitec-optima-6-channel-24ghz-full-range-receiver.html



You will be able to get the Motor, ESC, Batteries and servoes from HobbyKing, receiver from xtremehobby



Here is a good Youtube Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmNN2WNS2vE&feature=related



A good forum with everything you need to know about this plane

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886915&;



Plane $131.00

Motor $13.00

ESC $13.00

Servos $12.00

Battery $13.00

Hitec 2.4ghz Receiver $70

Cartage $ 50 approx

TOTAL $ 289.00 approx

May 28, 2011 at 10:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Peter Earl
Administrator
Posts: 486

Here is a link to a foam plane from hobbyking that comes with everything except receiver and battery. It look great and the price is write. Not sure how hard this plane would be to fly as its not really designed for a trainer however its worth considering for $120.00 plus cartage.


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=17333


May 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM Flag Quote & Reply

You must login to post.

Upcoming Events

Wednesday, Jun 28 at 4:00 PM - 6:00 PM
Sunday, Jul 2 at 9:00 AM - 3:00 PM
Wednesday, Jul 5 at 4:00 PM - 6:00 PM
Monday, Jul 10 at 12:00 AM - 11:59 PM

News

by Peter T | 1 comment
by Tony D | 0 comments
by Peter T | 0 comments

Recent Videos

355 views - 1 comment
870 views - 2 comments
1602 views - 0 comments
918 views - 0 comments